Modern armor alternatives


WayoftheStone Posted: Fri, 08/05/2005 - 13:55


In the past, stuff like chain/plate mail has been suggested to ward off zombie bites, attacks, etc. while effective, it has been correctly pointed out that this type of protection is heavy and cumbersome. thankfully, science is once again to the rescue!
when, or before, the zombie apocalypse hits, get yourself 2 or 3 (or more) ordianry kevlar vests. make sure it is Kevlar (tm), not just a ceramic ballistic armor sleeve (earlier flak jackets and swat gear to not use kevlar)and use this cloth to sew yourself some sleeves (to attach to one of the intact vests) try it out- some particularly thin varieties *can* be bit through with a great deal of effort, so double up if you want some extra assurity. do the same to line your pants. it might get hot, but shouldn't slow you down any more than cloths, and will protect you from 90%+ of bites, grabs, scratches, etc. (for best effect, sew with WAXED dental floss- it's near indestructible, and your seams won't break) remember to take out the ceramic plates (these are to soften the blow of bullets normally) as they will weigh you down. (note: if your zombies use guns frequently, leave them in Sticking out tongue)

alternatively, if you know where to get some, get a police dog trainer jacket. while oversized, and a little bulky, if great danes and german shepards can't bite through, rotting human corpses sure as hell can't.

if you think those are too bulky to be worth it, go light and hope you can stay away from em. meantime, i gotta see if i got any dental floss left...

"just don't let them turn into skeletons; the last thing we need to deal with is a resitance to slashing weapons"

Back to top

p00pies Posted: Fri, 08/05/2005 - 18:48

im beginning to think that a simply leather jacket might be the most effective and easiest to aquire armor. go grab a leather coat and try biting through it. now imagine yourself with 2 such jackets on against something trying to bite thru them. sure it will hurt but it shouldnt get through.

Back to top
Eliot - Site Admin Posted: Fri, 08/05/2005 - 22:48
Eliot - Site Admin's picture

I've mentioned this before, but think also about adding a layer of pop-bottle plastic. It won't add a lot of protection, but I think that leather backed with plastic (either in between the layers or sewn into it) would add a good amount of protection. It wouldn't fully stop a bite, but with leather, I think it would provide some very good protection.

All that needs to be said is this: FIRE = BAD

Back to top
Cyberdemon Posted: Sat, 08/06/2005 - 00:49
Cyberdemon's picture

good idea, plastic could bethe solution... now lets practice. *hands bottle* start chewing!

Laughing out loud

war's my game
destruction by no other name

Back to top
Murphy Posted: Sat, 08/06/2005 - 09:26

Damn you WayoftheStone Eye-wink I made my post in imparitive armor before i read this particular post. As usual, you've pretty much read my mind on the dog jacket, although i think the other guys have something here with the leatherjackets and pop bottle plastic. Certainly it will be easier to find these things than the attack dog jacket we both mentioned. My one issue is that it will be very hot, even compared to kevlar, and while i really like the plastic pop bottle idea, i wonder if it will cut down on quickness and flexibility. Finally, if you plan on being clawed at and bitten by zombies more than once (god forbid) you will most likely want to change jackets every 1-2 battles. The damage they sustain, unlike tyhat done to kevlar or dog sleeves, will be lasting and possibly debilitating to the integrity of your jacket, so be aware.

"This is a real shit idea. Know how i can tell? 'Cause it's really fucking _obviously_ a shit idea."

-Jim

Back to top
Glueall Posted: Sat, 08/06/2005 - 16:36

I've never seen armor vs zombies as something to protect you in a pitched battle. Armor is for that oh shit moment when you fuck up and a zombie latches on. Thus, the best armor is to not fuck up. However, in one of those moments, the purpose of the armor is to give you those extra seconds of not being infected needed to get away safely. Thus, leather, plastic, and other, stronger lightweight stuff if it's available, but never anything at all bulky.

Back to top
Bruce Wayne Posted: Sun, 08/07/2005 - 19:38

i personally see nothing wrong with medieval technology for protection, it worked great for our ancestors for thousands of years, why shouldn't it work for us? now the real question might be, "where do i get chain/plate armor?" consider these options- most butchering and meatpacking facilities very regularly employ a modern form of chainmail, vests, gloves, etc., to protect their workers from cuts, if you are near some buisness that does this type of thing, this would be ideal, also- you may have seen videos of scuba divers who are wearing chainmail to protect from sharks, check your local scuba store! most will probably not keep shark-chainmail in stock, but might have some on display. this brings me to another good idea, thicker neoprene wetsuits (7mills+) would provide excellent protection against bites as well as a fair amount of padding, kind of hot out of the water, but unless it's the middle of the summer, it should be fine. also scuba stores always have an ample supply of wetsuits in many sizes, and they also carry drysuits, which would be also good bite protection, and what could possibly provite better splash protection? anyways, back to medieval, plate armor will surely be harder to come by as it is generally not in production and is nearly impossible to make, unlike chainmail, however, let's consider adding sheet metal steel plates to any of the previously dsiscussed options, NO zombie would be able to chew through sheet metal, and it is in ample supply, hardware stores, ventilation ducts, cars, if you had even the most basic tin snips you would be easily able to cut most of the gages of sheet metal found in ventilation ducts and hardare stores and and imrovised pokey piece of metal would be able to pierce it for affixing to a flexible medium (neoprene, leather, kevlar) with that said, check the rich peoples houses in your neighborhood, the might have poor enough taste to actually get a full suit of medieval armor to wave their money in people's faces. also, another thought, most major art and history museums have medieval armor on display and this would be an excellent source for armor (and possibly even swords or other medival killing implements). furthermore, what would be more hope insiring to other zombie apocalypse survivors that seeing a troupe of elite chainsaw-wielding zombie-hunters tromping around the town square in several full sets of beautiful mediaval armor looted from the local art museum?

Batman would kick any zombies ass.

Back to top
Dragisoni Posted: Mon, 08/08/2005 - 02:14
Dragisoni's picture

Bruce Wayne wrote:
furthermore, what would be more hope insiring to other zombie apocalypse survivors that seeing a troupe of elite chainsaw-wielding zombie-hunters tromping around the town square in several full sets of beautiful mediaval armor looted from the local art museum?

You have sevral problems there. First chainsaws to be honest I have butcherd a pig with a chainsaw and the fleash gets cought in it you would need a butchers chainsaw to go through fleash. Second medevil armor has no protection agenst splash from blood. Third ALL ARMOR HAS TO BE CUSTOM MADE TO FIT PROPERLY. Fourth do you know how mutch full plate weighs? Ask a SCA member or go here http://www.sca.org/welcome.html and read up on what they do. Personaly I think that this would be one of the groups better prepaired for Z-Day

Will you hold me back? If need be I will leave you behind...

Back to top
WayoftheStone Posted: Mon, 08/08/2005 - 10:46

I agree. and i can certify first hand that bruce wayne is an idiot.

"just don't let them turn into skeletons; the last thing we need to deal with is a resitance to slashing weapons"

Back to top
Cyberdemon Posted: Mon, 08/08/2005 - 11:23
Cyberdemon's picture

some sortof synthetic suits can be much more helpful... have you worn full body armor, batman? a chainmail hauberk alone weighs over 60 lbs, and plate armor will double your bodyweight. not even i will be ableto fight in that. and a chainsaw? what a joke

war's my game
destruction by no other name

Back to top
Pemburuh Itu Posted: Tue, 08/16/2005 - 12:07

I really like the leather jacket with pop bottles idea, that's a good one, but it'd be a pain in the ass to make, plus, what if you don't have any bottles? I think a couple layers of plastic garbage bags would work nicely.

1) Waterproof means blood-proof, and that alone greatly reduces the splash-risk factor, plus all you need is a hose and you're clean again.

2) Hard as hell to bite through, plus if you tear it away it's bound to get caught in your mouth. This could potentially kill the bio types, plus it's already going to be hard to tear due to multiple layers, and elasticity.

3) Very lightweight, only problem would be the risk of overheating, so you'd most likely want to limit the use of this to extremeties and other easily bitten areas like your legs and arms. I wouldn't suggest putting it around your neck as it could get caught and strangle you, plus due to the softness of neck muscles and tissue you're better off with the stiff collar of a leather jacket.

4) Cheap to free and everywhere, I would bet my life that you could find trashbags within 5 minutes in any urban setting.

5) Plus, if you've ever seen Voyage of the Mimi, or some other comparably stupid show they've most likely shown you how to make a water purifier. On a ledge in direct sunlight (a curb or low rooftop would be ideal) simply fit a clear trashbag over a short stick (2-3 feet) and pound it a little ways into the surface, just enough to stand up straight in a little wind (if you can't pound something in trying using something freestanding, like a broken-off music stand or even something you can prop up with the containers). Next lay out a black trashbag around the base of the stick so that it lays as flatly as possible. Take whatever containers of impure water you have and put them inside, under the clear bag and on top of the dark bag, and weight down the edges of the clear bag on top of the black bag with rocks or books or whatever and wait. The sunlight will evaporate the water in the containers and it will condense on the clear bag, running down to pool on the black one. If you've done this on a ledge you can set up another container to catch the trickles that come out. This distilled water will leave all of the common problems with drinking impure water behind, like e-coli and cholera. It'll be warm water but you won't get bloody diarhea in three days.

What do you all think?

Max "Alright, we're just about set...half an hour to go and we'll b-JESUS CHRIST WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!"
Mitchell "WAGALGALGALGLALGA"
Max "AAAAAAAAAAAH"

Back to top
FAQ | Privacy Policy | Site Rules | Admin List | About | Disclaimer | Help