Revolver vs. The Automatic (and other handgun related stuff)
sanchez
Posted: Fri, 03/30/2007 - 17:18
Couldn't resist.
I'm just going to say this about suggesting who should get what sidearm. Pick something that feels good in your hand and you can shoot with little trouble.
well, both type of weapons would be good, but it depends on the type of situation eg: surrounded by a crap load of zombies. automatic weapons could be used to cut them down and then escape their 'circle of death' revolver would be good to use if there where stray's and you needed to clear them out
The one word that describes how I live: B.E.B.Z
(Bullets, Explosions, Babes, Zombies)
Oh, yeah, you heard me! THE MUPPET SHOW SAID SO!!!
I'm confused. Is this about whether to use a handgun versus an automatic or something else. I'M LOST!!!! I NEED A FORUM TOPIC TO DISCUSS!!! [/stupid]
Revolvers vs Automatics. What makes one better than the other.
Just to discuss whatever related to handguns.
Revolvers have many advantages over automatics.
That (eyeroll) desert eagle (I hate this gun) in .357 can't shoot .38 Specials.
Misfire. I'll bet you can't clear it with in an automatic faster than I can in a revolver.
Doesn't throw brass all to..... Oh yeah, language....
Extreme close-quarters. Jam the muzzle of that automatic against their head or torso then pull the trigger. It'll really mess up your day. Revolver, it's going to be a lot worse...... For them. The muzzle blast from each shot will be directed into the body.
Depending on the model. The grip portrudes less and it's easier to access. Would you rather have six shots right then or ten shots later?
They're simple. Easier to reload, unload, and maintain for those who have little knowledge when it comes to firearms. Some people have limited upper body or hand strength. So automatics would be a problem for those two groups.
It'll digest any load you put in it. Although really hotloads should be avoided if you don't want to ruin the gun or yourself. Automatics, if the gun handles light loads hot loads will beat up the gun. If it handles hot loads light loads won't cycle.
I would choose a revolver if I had speedloaders for it, I wouldnt want to be fumbling around with individual cartriges when the adrenalines pumping. Considering estimated speed for zobies is 1.5 steps per second, six roounds would be fine, with time to reload. If you were surrounded by zombies, you wouldnt have to shoot them all, just enough to cut a trail out. Last, I can shoot a .357 magnum revolver better than a 9mm auto. Since concealment wouldnt be a problem, no disadvantage there. O wait one more for the .357 mag, can shoot .38 spl, helps on ammo, and .357mag - TAKEDOWN POWER.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu
Guess this is a good time to point out something else out and introduce something new.
Speed loaders are not always the best method. Could you position one correctly and operate it under stress? Even if you're using individual rounds you might drop a few, but that's better than dropping the speedloader. Although it goes back to practice. If you're good with speed loaders take them.
Full moon and half moon clips. Think they're confined mostly to rimless cartridges. Only some dude I know claimed there were ones for the .357 which I doubt. Except it's always possible.
Pretty much it's a little band of metal that gives the rimless rounds headspace. The gun can be fired without the clips but it'll be hard to get them out.
For some of you who didn't know, there are (or were not sure what's on the market now) revolvers in .45 ACP, 9mm, and possibly .40, notice I said possibly meaning I'm not sure. However I do know there was one in 10mm which the .40 is almost the same.
Why make revolvers for cartridges commonly found in automatics? It would suck to have all these .45 ACP or 9mm rounds and nothing to shoot them with. However if you have a revolver in the same chambering as an automatic you're good to go. Still want to carry a .357? Carry three. One in a shoulder or chest rig, one on your hip, and the other in an ankle holster. Weight? They make "ultra light" model revolvers. Although these tend to be a little pricy depending on maker.
Comes down to this question "What are you going to do if your automatic screws up?" A) Die B) Try to use the gun as a club and later die. C) If you took the time and money to purchase a revolver as a back up draw it and shoot.
"Cowboy" model revolvers (Ruger Vaquero, etc.) can be drawn faster than a good number of your hightech automatics. How? Tell me and we'll both know, I'm putting my money on the shape of the grip. Concealment can be an issue. Dealing with other people. They might be not so nice people.
Taurus used to make a revolver that fired 9mm, .38spl, and .357mag, but I cant find it on their site ne more. If ur lucky mayb u cld get 1 used.
With speedloaders, practice definately essential. Once you get your system down, you can open up the cylinder with your right thumb, then hold the entire revolver, cylinder open, with your left hand, and use your right hand to grab the speedloader. It is essential that you are using your left hand to brace the cylinder, then you can twist the speedloader and dispense the rounds without spinning the cylinder. Practice this until it becomes natural, and when youre in the situation, stay focused, and slow down. This will make the whole proscess smoother.
Nother thing to consider - autos can be silenced - less zeds attracted 2 you.......
Except I don't think very many people can afford a class three license, get past the red tape, or find cheap equipment. I don't think anyone here would just pick up and use whatever they find. I don't think suppressors are "universal" and a single burr inside one could really mess up your day. Nor do I believe many here have the knowledge or equipment to manufacture reliable ones.
Might I point out certain issues with accuracy, ballistic performance, and the possibility of wearing out the equipment. Whether it be by time or negligence (damaging the threads). Even then suppressors are not entirely silent.
Weight also matters.
Although if one should find (or have) firearms that can accept a suppressor with sights that can compensate the accuracy problem and a suppressor of excellent quality then by all means employ it.
SO - all things considered, I would take a .357mag revolver. Reasoning:
- POWER. Enuf to go through a skull easily at the range you could accurately shoot it, or if ur enemy (living) is wearing body armor it will probly crack ribs and mess him up enough to get away or finish it.
-AMMO. Fires .38spl and .357mag, fires hot and weaker rounds, common caliber, variety of ammo available.
-MISCELLANEOUS. A revolver fires and reloads plenty fast enough to take out the slow moving zombie, specially if you have and know how to use speedloaders. Also, revolvers are tough, if you smack someone with it, you dont have to worry about knocking your slide out of battery. last, no jams, misfires easy to clear.
Sancez's idea of carrying more than one? not a bad idea, specially if your speedloader skills arent so good.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu
I'm confused. Is this about whether to use a handgun versus an automatic or something else. I'M LOST!!!! I NEED A FORUM TOPIC TO DISCUSS!!! [/stupid]
All that needs to be said is this: FIRE = BAD
well, both type of weapons would be good, but it depends on the type of situation eg: surrounded by a crap load of zombies. automatic weapons could be used to cut them down and then escape their 'circle of death' revolver would be good to use if there where stray's and you needed to clear them out
The one word that describes how I live: B.E.B.Z
(Bullets, Explosions, Babes, Zombies)
Oh, yeah, you heard me! THE MUPPET SHOW SAID SO!!!
Revolvers vs Automatics. What makes one better than the other.
Just to discuss whatever related to handguns.
Revolvers have many advantages over automatics.
That (eyeroll) desert eagle (I hate this gun) in .357 can't shoot .38 Specials.
Misfire. I'll bet you can't clear it with in an automatic faster than I can in a revolver.
Doesn't throw brass all to..... Oh yeah, language....
Extreme close-quarters. Jam the muzzle of that automatic against their head or torso then pull the trigger. It'll really mess up your day. Revolver, it's going to be a lot worse...... For them. The muzzle blast from each shot will be directed into the body.
Depending on the model. The grip portrudes less and it's easier to access. Would you rather have six shots right then or ten shots later?
They're simple. Easier to reload, unload, and maintain for those who have little knowledge when it comes to firearms. Some people have limited upper body or hand strength. So automatics would be a problem for those two groups.
It'll digest any load you put in it. Although really hotloads should be avoided if you don't want to ruin the gun or yourself. Automatics, if the gun handles light loads hot loads will beat up the gun. If it handles hot loads light loads won't cycle.
Should I point anything else out?
Ross Kemp can suck my sweaty hairy balls.
I would choose a revolver if I had speedloaders for it, I wouldnt want to be fumbling around with individual cartriges when the adrenalines pumping. Considering estimated speed for zobies is 1.5 steps per second, six roounds would be fine, with time to reload. If you were surrounded by zombies, you wouldnt have to shoot them all, just enough to cut a trail out. Last, I can shoot a .357 magnum revolver better than a 9mm auto. Since concealment wouldnt be a problem, no disadvantage there. O wait one more for the .357 mag, can shoot .38 spl, helps on ammo, and .357mag - TAKEDOWN POWER.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu
Guess this is a good time to point out something else out and introduce something new.
Speed loaders are not always the best method. Could you position one correctly and operate it under stress? Even if you're using individual rounds you might drop a few, but that's better than dropping the speedloader. Although it goes back to practice. If you're good with speed loaders take them.
Full moon and half moon clips. Think they're confined mostly to rimless cartridges. Only some dude I know claimed there were ones for the .357 which I doubt. Except it's always possible.
Pretty much it's a little band of metal that gives the rimless rounds headspace. The gun can be fired without the clips but it'll be hard to get them out.
For some of you who didn't know, there are (or were not sure what's on the market now) revolvers in .45 ACP, 9mm, and possibly .40, notice I said possibly meaning I'm not sure. However I do know there was one in 10mm which the .40 is almost the same.
Why make revolvers for cartridges commonly found in automatics? It would suck to have all these .45 ACP or 9mm rounds and nothing to shoot them with. However if you have a revolver in the same chambering as an automatic you're good to go. Still want to carry a .357? Carry three. One in a shoulder or chest rig, one on your hip, and the other in an ankle holster. Weight? They make "ultra light" model revolvers. Although these tend to be a little pricy depending on maker.
Comes down to this question "What are you going to do if your automatic screws up?" A) Die B) Try to use the gun as a club and later die. C) If you took the time and money to purchase a revolver as a back up draw it and shoot.
"Cowboy" model revolvers (Ruger Vaquero, etc.) can be drawn faster than a good number of your hightech automatics. How? Tell me and we'll both know, I'm putting my money on the shape of the grip. Concealment can be an issue. Dealing with other people. They might be not so nice people.
Ross Kemp can suck my sweaty hairy balls.
Taurus used to make a revolver that fired 9mm, .38spl, and .357mag, but I cant find it on their site ne more. If ur lucky mayb u cld get 1 used.
With speedloaders, practice definately essential. Once you get your system down, you can open up the cylinder with your right thumb, then hold the entire revolver, cylinder open, with your left hand, and use your right hand to grab the speedloader. It is essential that you are using your left hand to brace the cylinder, then you can twist the speedloader and dispense the rounds without spinning the cylinder. Practice this until it becomes natural, and when youre in the situation, stay focused, and slow down. This will make the whole proscess smoother.
Nother thing to consider - autos can be silenced - less zeds attracted 2 you.......
http://www.advanced-armament.com/products/silencers.asp
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu
Except I don't think very many people can afford a class three license, get past the red tape, or find cheap equipment. I don't think anyone here would just pick up and use whatever they find. I don't think suppressors are "universal" and a single burr inside one could really mess up your day. Nor do I believe many here have the knowledge or equipment to manufacture reliable ones.
Might I point out certain issues with accuracy, ballistic performance, and the possibility of wearing out the equipment. Whether it be by time or negligence (damaging the threads). Even then suppressors are not entirely silent.
Weight also matters.
Although if one should find (or have) firearms that can accept a suppressor with sights that can compensate the accuracy problem and a suppressor of excellent quality then by all means employ it.
Ross Kemp can suck my sweaty hairy balls.
SO - all things considered, I would take a .357mag revolver. Reasoning:
- POWER. Enuf to go through a skull easily at the range you could accurately shoot it, or if ur enemy (living) is wearing body armor it will probly crack ribs and mess him up enough to get away or finish it.
-AMMO. Fires .38spl and .357mag, fires hot and weaker rounds, common caliber, variety of ammo available.
-MISCELLANEOUS. A revolver fires and reloads plenty fast enough to take out the slow moving zombie, specially if you have and know how to use speedloaders. Also, revolvers are tough, if you smack someone with it, you dont have to worry about knocking your slide out of battery. last, no jams, misfires easy to clear.
Sancez's idea of carrying more than one? not a bad idea, specially if your speedloader skills arent so good.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu
What make you carrying? Smith and Wesson, Colt, Ruger, Taurus, Rossi, etc.
Ross Kemp can suck my sweaty hairy balls.
Taurus for the price and the ribber grip.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu