A Suitable Weapon Collection? (no firearms)


sanchez Posted: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 00:41

I've had this idea for the longest time, but I've never really been able to sit down and think it out.

We've got a lot of members who have the short poo covered end of the stick when it comes to weaponry. In other words they can't own some of the best tools for survival. Firearms. Well some of them can, but they can't go through all the redtape at this time or they don't want.

So we're going to discuss what would make a suitable collection of weapons. However it will not include firearms. I'll probably bounce ideas off of everyone and probably turn it into a Mighty Sanchez wall of text.

This is what I've considered the ideal collection of firearms (excluded Revolver and Rimfire Pistol/Revolver):

Precision/Distance Rifle
Main Rifle
Shotgun
Rimfire Rifle
Pistol
Hideout Gun

I got to thinking about what would be the non-firearm equivalent of said weapons. This is pretty much what I've got:

Precision Rifle- Bow or Crossbow
Main Rifle- Spear or pole arm
Shotgun- Sword, War Hammer, Axe, etc.
Rimfire Rifle- Blow Gun or slingshot
Pistol- Large-medium fixed blade knife.
Hideout Gun- Folding knife or small easily concealed fixed blade knife.

Any comments or ideas?

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Odesseyzephyr Posted: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 04:40
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Sounds reasonable.

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Shadow01192 Posted: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 05:15
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If your just gonna pick it up and use it I suggest the crossbow, effective and ammo is easily replaceable, Perhaps even a sling could be considered? Not the best weapon but a pound rock or Iron ball flying at how ever many miles per hour one can get the momentum up to is nothing to scoff at. At the weapon can be short range and easy to find and replace. In my opinion every bit as useful and dangerous as a blow gun. And when you say spear do you refer to the fighting spear which has the alternative use to be thrown or do your refer to the javelin?

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Dragisoni Posted: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 05:39
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war hammer or ball flail for the shotgun. The reason I say this is with a sword you are going to tire vary quickly (and its easyer to get/make a flail or war hammer).

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Bruce Allen Debore Posted: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 11:09

the crossbow would be better over the bow because it takes less skill and the ammo is shorter making it less likely to be broken in transporting
war hammer was made for crushing skulls so that is a good choice
and the sling idea is nice because it can also be used as a flail

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Chilbert Posted: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 13:22
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The Long/Short Bow and the Crossbow are no better than one another. It just depends on what you want to do and the range you are looking for.

The Crossbow can fire one shot with a good amount of reload time. The Archer using a bow when practiced and trained properly can fire a few more shots than the crossbowman in the same amount of time. The crossbow may prove more accurate, but the skill of the archer is not to be forgotten either.

Both the weapons have their specific strengths and weaknesses and it is up to the potential user to decide what they want out of and what they are willing to deal with in the case of using either. Smiling

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sanchez Posted: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 13:47

Shadow01192 wrote:
Not the best weapon but a pound rock or Iron ball flying at how ever many miles per hour one can get the momentum up to is nothing to scoff at. At the weapon can be short range and easy to find and replace. In my opinion every bit as useful and dangerous as a blow gun.

I'll disagree. As a weapon I wouldn't, but I was thinking about the blow gun being used for taking small game. Should have added sling-shot...

Shadow01192 wrote:
And when you say spear do you refer to the fighting spear which has the alternative use to be thrown or do your refer to the javelin?

Yes a fighting a spear that can be thrown. To me it seems to be the equivalent of a main rifle.

Chilbert wrote:
The Long/Short Bow and the Crossbow are no better than one another. It just depends on what you want to do and the range you are looking for.

Ninja carrying dictionary, what would you say is the effective range of a bow/crossbow on a target the size of an adult human's head?

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Chilbert Posted: Thu, 10/16/2008 - 18:06
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Hmm...I am looking for that information for you Sanchez but in the meantime, you may enjoy reading this: Bow VS Crossbow.

I found this information too: Medieval Crossbow.

Medieval Croosbow wrote:
The crossbow bolt, unlike a light flying arrow, was short with a deadly point. The crossbow range was 350 – 400 yards but could only be shot at a rate of 2 bolts per minute. The crossbow was easy to use, requiring minimal training and required little strength to operate.

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paged Posted: Fri, 10/17/2008 - 16:36
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A croosbow is far esier toaim an use than a bow, but slower to load; however the head of the quarrel will affect how good it is.That said if you can get a compound bow or crossbow, it will be very powerfull. For close combat, short blade 2-3 foot on a 2-3 foot handle ( glaive ) functional and carryable. sorry bad english

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sanchez Posted: Fri, 10/17/2008 - 17:52

paged wrote:
For close combat, short blade 2-3 foot on a 2-3 foot handle ( glaive )

functional and carryable.

I'd disagree since my definition of close combat is different. To me close combat with melee weapons begins at/within four or five feet of your person. Beyond that it's spear work or foot work (tacticool withdraw).

Portable: Yes. Functional: Only if well made.

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Pyratt Posted: Mon, 10/20/2008 - 05:17
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this work?

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