Should there be a possibility of getting banished in zombie dystopia as a punishment?


Eliot - Site Admin Posted: Tue, 10/25/2005 - 15:05

Hell Yes! What better threat than that of abandonment and eventual painful death.
9% (1 vote)
Yes. But only if there is no other option besides death for the person and the crime is unforgivable.
36% (4 votes)
Maybe. If only for a limited time, or if there is no other punishment suitable.
9% (1 vote)
Probably not. The person would have to be worse than the most vile person I can even imagine.
18% (2 votes)
No. Plain and simple. No.
27% (3 votes)
Total votes: 11

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Eliot - Site Admin Posted: Tue, 10/25/2005 - 15:05
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To me, it is a terrible thing because (a) if the person fails, they turn to a zombie, (b) there is then one more zombie in the world, (c) the community is minus an able-bodied person, and (d) sending that person out without any resources is worth than death, but (e) if you give them resources, you've lost resources too. I am looking at this thing from a very utilitarian perspective -- how do we get the most product/service out of an individual, by putting the least in. This, however, includes what it would take to keep them fed and comfortable and safe, not just the Russian communism. I want to be able to use a threat with someone and mean it, but I don't want the threat to weaken the community. So, the ultimate question:

Should there be any punishment of being kicked out of the community or placed in threat of zombies?

There is a medium level. If anyone has read Clan of the Cave Bear -- they banish the main character for a set period of time at which point she can return if she survives (and of course, she does). There is the possibility that they are banished for a certain number of days and then let back in into quarentine for a few days to make sure they're not zombified. Make sense? So, what do you all think?

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tmancer Posted: Tue, 10/25/2005 - 17:03

I'd avoid banishment for one specific reason:

It places out in the world a sentient, angry being that may just use his or her knowledge of your security procedures and fortification layout to screw you over horribly. If they've done something bad enough to warrant banishment, what makes you so sure they won't be willing to sneak back and open the door to zombies? You're basically condemning them to death anyways, and who needs a living enemy outside the gate with the knowledge and the motive to kill you?

If their crime is bad enough for banishment, it's bad enough for death. A bullet to the brainstem is fast, painless, and cheap.

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Lyinginbedmon Posted: Tue, 10/25/2005 - 17:45
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I don't plan on letting someone with murderous intent towards the Corridor get one over, but the Kannoneers are diplomatic at their roots, so it's a good possibility.

As I mentioned in another thread, I'd probably put them in the center of the Corridor on a Wednesday, better known as Cleaning Day, where there is much gladiatorial merriment with the walking corpses and monster machines. If they survive, they certainly won't be in any state to survive long or they won't be mentally capable of breaking the rules again. But I did say that was a last resort.

One thing to note is getting the person out in the first place, since the zombies will be swarming everywhere around the populace. Chances are they'd be bitten within 5 minutes and you'd have 1 extra zombie clawing to get in, which of course: isn't good.

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Cyberdemon Posted: Tue, 10/25/2005 - 22:47
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if its a minor crime, they pay for it with phys. labour. if its a major thing, like something i listed in my previous cruel topic... id either break his arms and send him out, or send him out at a serious disadvantage. kuz yes, a sentient angry being can survive jumping from roof to roof in suburbia staying away from the dead and then sabotaging your team... NOT SO if they have one leg AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :twisted:
oh im an @sshole... :oops:

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Archon252 Posted: Tue, 03/07/2006 - 03:42

Nobody deserves such a horrendous punishment...unless they are hopelessly depraved -- but then again, that individual probably wouldn't care much about their life anyway; he may even think of it as excitement. But just in case hand him a gun with one clip and let him choose whether or not to shoot himself. Otherwise he can attempt to survive alone, with no outside resources, just what he can manage to scavenge. Very heartless and also somewhat deserving, but if other options are viable I'd rather choose another instead. Unless the majority of your group believes he should be sent to a living hell, then do as the consensus dictates.

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Bruce Allen Debore Posted: Mon, 10/13/2008 - 22:32

Yes. But only if there is no other option besides death for the person and the crime is unforgivable.

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Scarecrow1418 Posted: Mon, 10/13/2008 - 22:52
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Archon252 wrote:
Nobody deserves such a horrendous punishment...unless they are hopelessly depraved -- but then again, that individual probably wouldn't care much about their life anyway; he may even think of it as excitement. But just in case hand him a gun with one clip and let him choose whether or not to shoot himself. Otherwise he can attempt to survive alone, with no outside resources, just what he can manage to scavenge. Very heartless and also somewhat deserving, but if other options are viable I'd rather choose another instead. Unless the majority of your group believes he should be sent to a living hell, then do as the consensus dictates.

Hell I wouldn't even give the F***tard a gun... If the B******* did something that bad he goes out on his own... I may give him some kind of melle weapon like a knife but that's it... Hell yes it can be done but only if the other option is death... Whoever is getting kicked out must do something very very bad...

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Washikaz Posted: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 00:31
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Why not simply send him out on redemption missions ??? like what tribes did way back before BC was invented ?
like send them out on missions which would help you but would must likely get whoever is doing them killed.
like getting them to go out alone to gather 20 sacks of food or something ??? and just to make sure it isn't tainted, you can use it to feed him and him alone...hehe if he survives his redemption food they can rejoin the community ? that way you make a gain(one less mouth to feed for awhile), don't lose resources (aslong as they get back) and he is punished...

But other than that i'd just ask em to commit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jigai
Cut teh Jugular vein...ouch

feeding zombies not smart...letting to survive with large knowledge of your fortifications also bad...

As long as aminals dun get reviveded, thinks "Black Sheep" all over again...see link;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMyVljAP_A <- Black Sheep Movie Trailer...

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Don Posted: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 15:24
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I think it would replace the life sentence really.
If people are surviving off or whatever food they can hunt and gather you can't waste resources keeping a jailed criminal alive. The death sentence would probably still exist though.
In World War Z Brooks wrote about medieval punishment coming back and I think that it would.
Stuff that embarrasses and hurt someones place in the community.

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tak231 Posted: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 21:17
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Should have waited a lil over a weeks before posting on this, it would have been three years old.

I say it should be done, but only under the most extreme circumstances, like if he attempted to kill (success or no) another survivor, if that's the case then he should have a steak strapped to his back and thrown out the door.

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