zombies' level of conciousness...


ZombieManick Posted: Thu, 07/10/2008 - 15:30

personally i think zombies would be concious beings with the ability to learn, and eventually by learning, think. they are able to find ways of getting their food, and their main mission is to get it, and they won't stop at anything to get it so this drive them to found flesh by any means. this may make them think outside of the box, especially if food is running low and they cannot just rely on the basic instinct of finding food, so lack of sustenence may provoke quite dynamic yet still primitive thinking among them. take for example george a. romero's land of the dead, the zombies began to think of ways of getting around and through defenses, progressively learning by means of trial and error. as related to lack of food this trial and error will eventually make them learn, no matter how long it may take, more likely then not it would happen. if thoughts began to emerge in the zombies mind even if the infection is a degenerative one, zombies would become much more effective in small numbers, and may lead on to them learning how to use weapons (as also seen in land of the dead), running and climbing, and maybe even planning attacks if they get to that extent of thought!!(which may take a long time but i guess it could happen...) zombies may be humans without intelligence and a lust for human flesh, but their ability to learn may still be there from when they were concious beings. i'm not saying they would be able to remember themselves as concious uninfected beings, but the human ability to learn from mistakes could still be existent in them! man learnt that if you touch fire you get burnt, what's stopping them from learning what to do and what not to do to put flesh flesh on the table at the end of the day? after all, all a zombie wants to do is remain ''alive'', if you could put it that way!!

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Chilbert Posted: Thu, 07/10/2008 - 15:39
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Probable theory. (Still speculation, but probable) I did not say possible because I believe anything is possible, just improbable.

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QueenJay Posted: Thu, 07/10/2008 - 15:41
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I agree. Zombies retain the basic instincts of survival and part of that is learning. Their drive for food will enable them to go to extremes to get it. My theory is that the cortex is the first to go in an infected, but the primitive limbic system remains.

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ZombieManick Posted: Thu, 07/10/2008 - 15:50
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the medulla oblongata which controls anger in the brain, a more primitive emotion, could also remain intact which could drive them them to find food at all costs theoretically. i think the adrenal glands and the limbic system would have something to do with all this, because a zombie couldn't feel something without thinking (in the simplest of ways of course, mabe not...). like if they couldn't, they'd just be vegetables!! they wouldn't be able to look for food, eat food, walk, or do any other action that they rely on for food!

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the_zombie_furnace Posted: Thu, 07/10/2008 - 17:13
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I'm not going to lie, I like the new guy a lot. Showing lots of promise. I agree with what he says here, I've always entertained the thought of intelligent zombies, seem to me like the most threatening type. The only way I can see it, however, is not coinciding with them truly being dead, more of a very reduced form of human, intellect and snaity wise. Maybe that's why the 28 days later type make so much sense to me. Don't get me wrong, thoe kind still have there flaws, such as the disease sprouting up from monkeys being overdosed with an exposure to the human condition.

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Jimm607 Posted: Thu, 07/10/2008 - 19:02
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Walking is not something your born with the ability to do, you have to learn, and so if a zombie is able to walk there are two possibilities i can think of:

1) A zombie retains some knowledge, if only those things you dont forget, eg how to walk, maybe even speak or run, come up with ideas of their own, what can hurt them ect, those things you know without having to think about.

2) Zombies can learn, possibly worse of all, zombies that can learn may develop speach and even make plans co-ordinating each other, ofcourse this may only be at a primal level, even able to set traps of their own.

Either one is bad for us. But hey, you might just get lucky and it might take them as long as a baby to re-learn to walk, that might give us enough time to kill em before they kill us Smiling

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Odesseyzephyr Posted: Thu, 07/10/2008 - 20:55
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Nice theory, you do show some promise. Though were this to be the case with zeds then alot of plans could be ruined and things are going to be much much harder then.

Winning isn't a reason to get a reward but one less poke in the eye, while losing gets you two.

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Chilbert Posted: Thu, 07/10/2008 - 22:32
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the_zombie_furnace wrote:
I'm not going to lie, I like the new guy a lot. Showing lots of promise.

He is okay, if he starts using capital letters where they belong I will be impressed. Smiling

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the_zombie_furnace Posted: Fri, 07/11/2008 - 00:00
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Hey I do that too!

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ZombieManick Posted: Fri, 07/11/2008 - 08:36
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the_zombie_furnace wrote:
I'm not going to lie, I like the new guy a lot. Showing lots of promise. I agree with what he says here, I've always entertained the thought of intelligent zombies, seem to me like the most threatening type. The only way I can see it, however, is not coinciding with them truly being dead, more of a very reduced form of human, intellect and snaity wise. Maybe that's why the 28 days later type make so much sense to me. Don't get me wrong, thoe kind still have there flaws, such as the disease sprouting up from monkeys being overdosed with an exposure to the human condition.

I'll start using capital letters now, sorry, bad habit.Sticking out tongue:D Yeah i agree with what you say, maybe once infected, the brain is ''rebooted'' in some kind of way, ''deleting'' un-needed actions etc. but core abilities remain such as to walk, so they won't have to learn that again which will help them survive as infected beings, because they'd die from starvation because of not learning in a short enough space of time how to walk and do basic actions. So would we all agree that zombies would be lower forms of humanity, based upon but not enslaved by primal instincts??

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Odesseyzephyr Posted: Fri, 07/11/2008 - 22:37
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ZombieManick wrote:
the_zombie_furnace wrote:
I'm not going to lie, I like the new guy a lot. Showing lots of promise. I agree with what he says here, I've always entertained the thought of intelligent zombies, seem to me like the most threatening type. The only way I can see it, however, is not coinciding with them truly being dead, more of a very reduced form of human, intellect and snaity wise. Maybe that's why the 28 days later type make so much sense to me. Don't get me wrong, thoe kind still have there flaws, such as the disease sprouting up from monkeys being overdosed with an exposure to the human condition.

I'll start using capital letters now, sorry, bad habit.Sticking out tongue:D Yeah i agree with what you say, maybe once infected, the brain is ''rebooted'' in some kind of way, ''deleting'' un-needed actions etc. but core abilities remain such as to walk, so they won't have to learn that again which will help them survive as infected beings, because they'd die from starvation because of not learning in a short enough space of time how to walk and do basic actions. So would we all agree that zombies would be lower forms of humanity, based upon but not enslaved by primal instincts??

No, no one is agreeing to that, just that your theory is feasible. We won't agree to anything till an actual zed appears for our examination.

Winning isn't a reason to get a reward but one less poke in the eye, while losing gets you two.

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