Water and Fire


Shadow01192 Posted: Sat, 04/19/2008 - 06:21

Ok I'm starting the forum after attempting an experiment in which i attempted to distill 3 cups of water through boiling. For those of you who don't know how to do this boil the water and collect the steam, this is distilled and purified water free of bacteria, Virus, Metal, and poison. I had to collect it using 2 pot covers and let the steam cool and collect into a bowl. To get a half a cup this way took me over an hour. The water in the pot is purified but not free of metal, poison and possibly virus. Though viral infection through purified water is unlikely we still don't know what we are dealing with and being able to drink water is a necessity. Now granted the distilled water tastes pretty good but how long would a gallon like this take? Most of us don't have a water distilling factory in our house, a purifier maybe but will purification kill virus? I wouldn't put my money on it. Now I do admit that this was my first attempt and I did it at home. Best place to try a field test.

I've also been studying fire for a number of years, and I know fire bad, but in a lot of cases fire good. Can't boil water without fire. And the tin can fire stove, awesome. Many things we have discussed on this site is simply wonderful. However, what happens when we don't have fuel. So many people want to soak the bodies of who knows how many Zed in gas and burn them until nothing is left. Well first off let me start by saying to get the temperature to incinerate something is very difficult so you will have to keep it burning to a while which will take fuel, time and release a lot of toxins into that area very quickly, all just as quickly eliminated really but a potential threat none the less. With the price of gas rising quickly, and the possibility of Z-day or another such apocalyptic dystopia becoming more real by the day, we have no other alternative but to prepare. But with gasoline becoming less of a convenience, how do many of us intend to set fire to things. Butane and Propane are options, So is Naphtha and Alcohol and Paraffin. But how long can those options hold out, and those options can't run certain things. Motors for example.

But is that technically true? Can a car run off of something other than Gasoline? The answer is yes Ethanol, most cars now a days are made to be able to use Ethanol or Gasoline. Which is cool because Ethanol can be made at home. It used to be called Moonshine but hey if someone can get wasted and 30 miles to the gallon I say more power to them. But few of us know how to make "moonshine" So I dedicate this thread to spreading the best and most effective ways to Distill Water, Burn 150+ lbs of anything, and you guessed it Making Alcohol. Now I urge you not to get drunk with this knowledge. I urge you not to go and burn your best friend to death. And I urge you to drink more water. So Let the topic begin. With ALCOHOL!

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Slash_and_Burn Posted: Sat, 04/19/2008 - 06:33

Okay, if you know anything about homebrew raise your hand, *raises hand*.

It is not wise to attempt such a thing in the states lest you can have pretty much everything repossessed.

Making homebrew using recipies found on the internet can be at best, like stepping on a syringe, you just don't know if you're going to make poison (the good kind) or poison (the bad kind).

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Shadow01192 Posted: Sat, 04/19/2008 - 06:36
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Slash_and_Burn wrote:
Okay, if you know anything about homebrew raise your hand, *raises hand*.

It is not wise to attempt such a thing in the states lest you can have pretty much everything repossessed.

Making homebrew using recipies found on the internet can be at best, like stepping on a syringe, you just don't know if you're going to make poison (the good kind) or poison (the bad kind).

Thats why I made this so those of us who don't know enough can learn and those of us who know can teach. Since you know please speak up.

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Shadow01192 Posted: Sat, 04/19/2008 - 06:37
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MORE ALCOHOL!!! Now again I say please do not use this to get drunk and of all things BE CAREFUL! You can never be to safe remember Ethanol is very combustible be careful with flames, sparks and electricy around it as it can catch fire easily. And as Slash was kind enough to point out it could be toxic so make sure you know what your doing drinking before you drink anything

WATER ,We have an article on it?! YES ITS THAT IMPORTANT! and Distilled water myths

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Chilbert Posted: Sat, 04/19/2008 - 08:59
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Very well thought out thread Shadow. Well done.

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NIE Posted: Sat, 04/19/2008 - 11:35
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Two pan covers.... Seriously? Why didnt you use tinfoil, a metal straw and a glass cup?

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sanchez Posted: Sat, 04/19/2008 - 12:43

Shadow01192 wrote:
But is that technically true? Can a car run off of something other than Gasoline? The answer is yes Ethanol, most cars now a days are made to be able to use Ethanol or Gasoline. Which is cool because Ethanol can be made at home. It used to be called Moonshine but hey if someone can get wasted and 30 miles to the gallon I say more power to them.

Ethanol as in turning corn into fuel? If that's what you're talking about I think you may already know how I feel about such an idea.

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moskaudancer Posted: Sat, 04/19/2008 - 13:56
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sanchez wrote:
Shadow01192 wrote:
But is that technically true? Can a car run off of something other than Gasoline? The answer is yes Ethanol, most cars now a days are made to be able to use Ethanol or Gasoline. Which is cool because Ethanol can be made at home. It used to be called Moonshine but hey if someone can get wasted and 30 miles to the gallon I say more power to them.

Ethanol as in turning corn into fuel? If that's what you're talking about I think you may already know how I feel about such an idea.

Yes, ethanol is very energy inefficient compared to gasoline, and that corn is definitely better used as fuel for people. Besides that, unless a car is designed to be able to use ethanol, the ethanol will gradually corrode the petroleum-based plastic tubes & hoses in your engine.

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NIE Posted: Sat, 04/19/2008 - 14:44
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sanchez wrote:
Shadow01192 wrote:
But is that technically true? Can a car run off of something other than Gasoline? The answer is yes Ethanol, most cars now a days are made to be able to use Ethanol or Gasoline. Which is cool because Ethanol can be made at home. It used to be called Moonshine but hey if someone can get wasted and 30 miles to the gallon I say more power to them.

Ethanol as in turning corn into fuel? If that's what you're talking about I think you may already know how I feel about such an idea.

You want to get screwed up and crunk?

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sovietsurvivalist12 Posted: Thu, 04/24/2008 - 15:59

to make 1 gallon of ethanol fuel from corn u use 9/10"s gallon of gas

I think its a waste doesnt really help

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