Decay in a world without people


just-a-scratch Posted: Mon, 03/24/2008 - 04:59

Recently, I've seen "Aftermath: Population Zero" and "Life After People" and I read Alan Weisman's "The World without Us." I'm not trying to start a book circle, but all of these basically deal with what happens to the stuff humans built if humans disappear. This decay by nature and lack of maintanance would be accelerated by the abuse from the walking dead, rioting, etc. Depending on how long a dystopia lasted, personal strongholds could be compromised by the elements and you could go out looking for a new place to live to find that roofs have fallen in, animals are digging through walls for shelter, fire has clearing out cities, trees are growing out of partially collapsed buildings, and so on. In a relatively short period of time, neighborhoods could be returning to forest conditons. How does one plan on surviving the long term in an unmaintained world? If we concede that it might not be possible to stock a kitchen pantry for unlimited years, where is the best place to go when the roof starts to cave in?

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Dragisoni Posted: Mon, 03/24/2008 - 11:24
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this is somthing that i do not think has been discussed before. but once decay sets in like that I would assume that there would be citys of people and or all the zeds would be dead (no longer able to move dead) if that was not the case then I would recomend an island that is big enough to grow things on and (with any luck) near a deep sea oil drill. other then that i dont know any other suggestions?

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starsovertibet Posted: Mon, 03/24/2008 - 12:14
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It's not like man hasn't survived without modern homes or cities. You can always build a new home, log cabins are sturdy. Most places still have mid to high amounts of game to hunt, and with people gone the animals will become more prevalent. You may need to resort to food you never thought of like squirrel. The biggest problem would be fortifying land for farming, since most materials would be degrading you would have to harvest your own materials. You could build a wooden wall along the style of a cabin wall, or recover steal and melt it down to create steal slats.

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sanchez Posted: Sat, 03/29/2008 - 00:37

Well. I'm glad no one is over estimating decay of structures.

Myself and a friend have stumbled upon both a house and an old gas station/bar in the middle of the woods. The house is stick built and happens to be in livable condition. Gas station/bar is built from block with a roof consisting of wood. Part of which has collapsed because it was introduced to a very large pine tree. I'm guessing the house has been there since the 40s and the gas station/bar has been there since the 50s-60s. Still beer in the fridge too. Laughing out loud

Not to mention there are a few buildings not far from my location that have been where they are since the 18-something (not kidding) are unmaintained and in pretty good condition. Old plantation house was maintained, but it burt down less than a month ago. Also two old cotton mills one built god only knows how long ago and one built/upgraded/maintained 1911-200? (0,1, or 2) (guess it don't count then). Both liveable condition. Especially the second except part of it was gutted by a fire which may or may not have been an arson case. No I didn't do it. I'm just wondering why there was a gas can, rags, and pack of matches in the supervisor's office.

So you'll have to define "short period of time".

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Xtacle5 Posted: Sat, 03/29/2008 - 00:43
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starsovertibet wrote:
You may need to resort to food you never thought of like squirrel.

Actually Squirrel is quite tasty and tender. I would know. I am trying to become their king and create a squirrel army.

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just-a-scratch Posted: Sat, 03/29/2008 - 00:54

Newer houses don't have the same half life as plantation houses or even buildings from the 1940's. "Beer still in the fridge" from the 1950's I have no explanation for. Either that is really lucky or the worst beer ever bottled in the history of man. It is so bad that even drifters decided it was not worth drinking for all those years.

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Chilbert Posted: Sat, 03/29/2008 - 11:20
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I may be missing some of the point but, If all people were gone why would people be looking for place to find shelter? ...Seems like a logical fallacy or what we refer to as "moot point." Just saying.

If your point however was the decay of buildings in the landscape, I do not believe that it will be as much of a problem as you would like to believe. Many of the structures built today use more effective methods that require little to no maintenance. Many of the older structures have already withstood the "test of time" and will continue to do so unless burnt to the ground or natural disaster strikes. In any case, there will still be plenty of homes, businesses, government buildings, warehouses, etc that will be unaffected. The main problem in a zombie dystopia would probably be getting to, clearing, and barricading said buildings; not so much finding them.

By the way, to the person who mentioned squirrel traps: Snaring Game.(click on snaring game in the link to the left hand side of the split screen)

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sanchez Posted: Sat, 03/29/2008 - 21:49

just-a-scratch wrote:
Newer houses don't have the same half life as plantation houses or even buildings from the 1940's.

"Beer still in the fridge" from the 1950's I have no explanation for. Either that is really lucky or the worst beer ever bottled in the history of man. It is so bad that even drifters decided it was not worth drinking for all those years.

I'd have lean toward agreeing with you in some cases. They don't make them like they use to. A lot of people cut corners. However there are a few out there who build stuff that lasts. Employer happens to be one of them. Considering the materials I believe they'll last longer than some of those old plantation buildings.

I'll get the name off the label next time I'm in the area. Then again who would want to drink decades old beer? Warm beer at that..... Except maybe our Resident Aussie Slash and Burn.

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