I suggest no more Bullshit and a lot more Initiative if this group wants to be taken serously, I suggest you do away with members who are dee dee dee and what would be a lot of people including admin and moderator, strict policy on who you let in and keep to be a more effective organization.
more importantly pulling your heads out of your asses when it comes to information, during my absence I saw things where still dee dee dee, what I found was real information about a potential outbreak
for the very few here and I have not seen them who are not dee dee dee this is for you, what you do with it is up to you
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071123/hl_nm/fda_fludrugs_dc;_ylt=AoCbkACJW
FDA staff urge psych warnings for two flu drugs
reported friday November 23 2007 3:14 pm et
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Food and Drug Administration staffers are recommending new warnings about psychiatric events observed in some patients taking Roche Holding AG's Tamiflu and GlaxoSmithKline Plc's Relenza, according to documents released on Friday.
An FDA advisory panel will review the recommendations for the anti-viral influenza drugs at a meeting next week.
The FDA held a similar meeting two years ago in response to reports of a dozen deaths of children in Japan who had been taking Tamiflu.
Experts then found no evidence of a direct connection between the drug and the deaths, although the FDA did ultimately update Tamiflu's label to add a caution urging close monitoring of patients for abnormal behavior such as delirium or self-injury.
In documents prepared for the meeting next week and posted on the FDA's Web site, agency staff recommended that Tamiflu's label be strengthened to note: "In some cases, these behaviors resulted in serious injuries, including death, in adult and pediatric patients."
The FDA staff also reviewed Relenza, a drug in the same class as Tamiflu, recommending its label be changed to note "reports of hallucinations, delirium and abnormal behavior" observed in some patients taking the drug.
The current Relenza label has no label warning related to psychiatric events.
The FDA staff said the evidence is "conflicting" as to whether the events are medication-related, a manifestation of disease or a combination of the two.
Tamiflu has been more widely used in Japan than in the United States, and there is some evidence that the Japanese are more vigilant about reporting side effects, the FDA has said.
Tamiflu, known generically as oseltamivir, is a pill, while Relenza, generically zanamivir, is inhaled.
A Roche spokesman said no causal relationship between Tamiflu and these psychiatric events has been proven.
A Roche spokesman said no causal relationship between Tamiflu and these psychiatric events has been proven.
"Roche has extensively investigated the issue and is conducting ongoing clinical and nonclinical studies. Roche takes all adverse events reports very seriously," spokesman Terence Hurley said in a statement.
About 48 million people have taken Tamiflu worldwide, including 21 million children, since approval in 1999, he said.
A Glaxo spokeswoman said a review of premarketing and post-approval trial data showed no worrying safety signals on patients taking Relenza. The drug is a not a major revenue-generator for UK-based Glaxo.
FDA staff based its recommendations on a review of nearly 600 cases of neuropsychiatric events reported by patients on Tamiflu and 115 cases of such events by patients taking Relenza.
The FDA staff will present the advice to the advisory panel of experts meeting on Tuesday, November 27. The agency typically takes the advice of these panels but is not bound by them.
JAPAN PROBE
Japan in March warned against prescribing Tamiflu to those ages 10 to 19 as more than 100 people, mostly young, showed signs of abnormal behavior after taking the drug.
Earlier this year, Japan broadened its probe of Tamiflu to look at flu drugs Relenza and amantadine, after reports of abnormal behavior among young patients.
FDA staff reviewed recent side effect reports on amantadine and rimantadine, another flu drug in amantadine's class, but recommended no label changes. Amantadine already has a strong warning about suicide attempts and an increase in seizures seen in patients on the drug, while rimantadine notes seizure-like activity and hallucinations.
Tamiflu was having lackluster sales as a drug to prevent and treat seasonal flu but got a second life when it was the first drug to show real efficacy in treating and preventing bird flu.
The FDA staff documents for the advisory meeting were posted at: http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/07/briefing/2007-4325b-00-in dex-27and28.html.
(Additional reporting by Ben Hirschler in London)
(Reporting by Kim Dixon; Editing by Gerald E. McCormick and Carol Bishopric)
Now this is what real research gets you rather then bantering back and forth about stupid shit, not a single person here has brain one in there heads, as for all the 2 faced people who I had on my buddy list you never bothered to contact, I have removed you all therefore your no friends of mine. I considder myself lucky that my group all be it small, has members with compitent heads on there shoulders. To all the critics on here who bashed me FUCK YOU you can kiss are whole asshole.
I tried to reach out to you all, to find who was really compitent, but not a god damn one of you are, you bash the anarchists cookbook because its to political, bullshit, you bash it because your scared of the truth and what knowledge can be gained from it, not a god damn one of you would ever survive an encounter with a zombie yet alone a pack of them. you dumb asses need to go back to school, hit the arcade if you can't afford a firearm to work on marksmenship, possess the right thinking and you will gain wisdom and new understanding.
If any shit head here has got the nerve to bash me with words, truck your asses to NC and be prepaired to get your heads bashed in for real.
I was the only real person here with actual experience in dealing with zombies, you wannabe only wish you could be like me in so many ways.
This will be my only helpful suggestion I give this group of idiots, retards, and dee dee dee.
after this remove me from this group as none of you deserve to be informed by a professional
Ken Bullard |
WHATEVER
10000 Fists in the Air!
Umm i got two things i want to tell you.First nice ranting skills there,
Second you are an elitist prick and i think you took some drugs yourself cause buddy i doubt youve had zed based encounters.
Ok so i got a lot more to say but those were the main two things i wanted to say.
Since you are an elitist prick i doubt people are going top be going all 'Ohh no that asshole left us.What will we do without his arrogant ass.'This is the internet arrogant assholes are plenty and way to close in between.
Also since you believe so much inyour zombie encounters and their plausibility then how do you explain the fact that you are lashing out against people who are alos trying to prepare themselves.Since devising a strategy and having it critiques is hardly irational and foolish behavious i would think that most of us here dont deserve this simply for not being god damned anti depresant overdosing idiots who are in a constant state of panic.
Ok let me sum this all up.Your an asshole.And get out faster cause your already late for the train to fuckervile.The bus to jerktopia is still waiting.Maybe you can catch that.
Cause wearing a tux during Z-Day will make me look good and die trying.
PWND!!!!! (That is still required in a msg board right??)
Let anyone you want in your group, but never....NEVER trust a Bothan. Because The Muppet Show Said So
Wow... you just... wow. What an enormous asshole. Please go back to 4chan, you worthless piece of shit.
EDIT: Someone please zombify this topic. We can't kill it with fire, but at least we can just let it die.
Melee weapons: Because there's nothing more satisfying than bashing in a zed cranium with your new best friend, Mr Crowbar™. (Product demonstration brought to you by nick47)
Was that a threat at the end of his post?
Come here..now!
You try to "bash"my head in your gonna find out real quick why i need a 25 round mag in my 22.
GO AWAY
thank you.
I tried to reach out to you all, to find who was really compitent, but not a god damn one of you are, you bash the anarchists cookbook because its to political, bullshit, you bash it because your scared of the truth and what knowledge can be gained from it, not a god damn one of you would ever survive an encounter with a zombie yet alone a pack of them. you dumb asses need to go back to school, hit the arcade if you can't afford a firearm to work on marksmenship, possess the right thinking and you will gain wisdom and new understanding.
If any shit head here has got the nerve to bash me with words, truck your asses to NC and be prepaired to get your heads bashed in for real.
I was the only real person here with actual experience in dealing with zombies, you wannabe only wish you could be like me in so many ways.
This will be my only helpful suggestion I give this group of idiots, retards, and dee dee dee.
after this remove me from this group as none of you deserve to be informed by a professional
K first things first IBTL now onto more important matters, where did you get a zombie to conduct research on?
And we get plenty of discussing done here it's just that everyone else here is what we call friendly and so we act like friends and talk about whatever. Mabye you should do some research on being friendly instead of saying "i did "research" on zombies and since you guys are friends you all suck!" please just go away and please aquire some friends while your at it.
TECHNOVIKING COMMANDS IT!
ho-ly shee-it
dude is a complete dip.
zombify this shit and ban this fucktard
Now this is what real research gets you rather then bantering back and forth about stupid shit, not a single person here has brain one in there heads, as for all the 2 faced people who I had on my buddy list you never bothered to contact, I have removed you all therefore your no friends of mine. I considder myself lucky that my group all be it small, has members with compitent heads on there shoulders. To all the critics on here who bashed me FUCK YOU you can kiss are whole asshole.
I can't recall if I've ever debated with you sirrah, but if I have and it made you angry as such I apologize. It's all in good fun.
I tried to reach out to you all, to find who was really compitent, but not a god damn one of you are,
1. I didn't get anything...
2. If you can figure out who is genuinely comPEtant in a Z-Day scenario just by online chat logs, my hats off to you.
I am in my early twenties. I have been with the Canadian forces, Regular and currently Reserve, for 6 years, and have trained extensively in Infantry, Artillery and Armoured Military tactics. I have been on too numerous to count training Operations ranging from squad sized engagement tactics to Battalion sized movements. I have been called out three times for major disasters, including a major flood, snow storm, and protest. I am currently attending University (2nd year) to Major in Politics and double minor in Physics and Mathematics (Weird choice but I plan on eventually becoming a pilot). I enjoy hunting, paintballing, airsofting and playing War Games (Not video or board) with others on my Campus who have military experiance. One such game is a theoretical Undead (28 Days Later type) invasion of my area. We have complete knowledge of Police, Military, and Security staff in the area. My Warrant (God bless him) humours us and acts as the Zombie horde.
If that doesn't make me competant, I don't know what does. I guess a six week course in Paranormal research is the only way to be competant.
you bash the anarchists cookbook because its to political, bullshit, you bash it because your scared of the truth and what knowledge can be gained from it,
I've never bashed the Anarchists cook book, but I have proven, MILITARY training on improvising explosives. I don't need the book.
I just don't advacate people improvising and making explosives on their own. What's the use of a barrel of Napalm if some poor kid blows his arms off making them?
I'm not telling people what they should and shouldn't do, I'm just asking that they don't be stupid about it.
All the Cookbooks I've read don't exactly have a Political message in it, other then the tried and true Socialist rant at the back. How is one person's opinions 'Truth?'
not a god damn one of you would ever survive an encounter with a zombie yet alone a pack of them.
Despite the fact that I really beg to differ, what puts yourself in such a position that you'll survive for certain in a scenario that by your own words would lead us to certain death? All that Paranormal and Paramilitary training? I have Normal and Military training. I guess if it doesn't start with Para it's useless...
you dumb asses need to go back to school,
Of course. I mean I know I took Intro to Zombie Philosphy, Zombie Psychology, Zombie Politics in the Modern Era, and Zombie Anatomy. Who on this board hasn't taken Zombie anything at their schools? I think I'll go into the Graduate Program.
hit the arcade if you can't afford a firearm to work on marksmenship, possess the right thinking and you will gain wisdom and new understanding.
And this is the point where I realized something was very off in your thinking Mr. Belmont. That or your entire rant is one, giant joke (Which is what I'm hoping).
VIDEO GAMES = MARKSMENSHIP AND WEAPON TRAINING?! Now, I don't like using swears in rants (Since it shows immaturity and shows the debater really can't put forth an arguement without including words five year olds use) but I am so flabbergasted by that statement that I can only sum it up in four words...
ARE. YOU. FUCKING. STUPID?!
*WARNING!!!*
The following segment is very offensive and recalls a 1999 Infamous School Shooting. If you are disturbed by such rants please continue past to Mr. Belmont's next quote.
Now, the Columbine pair (I refuse to use their names since it only leads to their goal) killed 12 students and wounded 23 others in a school that held over 1000 Students that were crammed into a relatively tiny building. The pair had a couple of firearms, namely 9mm and .12 Gauge shotguns. In addition they had what is estimated to be nearly 100+ Improvised Explosive Devices based off designs articulated in the Anarchists cook book.
The duo played many, many shooting games most famously Doom and Wolfenstien 3D but they also profess a love for arcade shooters (Especially the popular Deer Hunter machine. You know, that one with the orange laser gun).
Now if this particular part of my rant has offended anyone, I'm sorry but my point is this.
Those killers fired over 900 rounds of ammunition, and threw several improvised explosive devices (with only 10% working, all Gasoline based). In a school where 1000+ students were all herded together. They weren't being attacked, they had time to carry out their massacre. Engagement was always under 20 yards. And they only killed 12 students, and wounded 23 others. I believe something like only 3 students had been shot in the head despite no struggling.
If you honestly believe video games and reading the Anarchists Cookbook make you a walking kill machine, Mr. Belmont, I and thousands of Columbine highschool students have definitive proof to the contrary.
If any shit head here has got the nerve to bash me with words, truck your asses to NC and be prepaired to get your heads bashed in for real.
I have spring break starting February 10th. If you wish to pay for a plane ticket or other travel expenses I will gladly come down and have a reasonable (Mature) debate with only problems you choose to have with me. If you wish not to meet face to face please message me and I will gladly give you a cell phone number to which you can call and I am willing to re-iterate this debate with you over the phone.
I was the only real person here with actual experience in dealing with zombies, you wannabe only wish you could be like me in so many ways.
Place state where, when, and why your so called experiance happened, how it played out, who was with you, what factors were involved, what unfolded with the situation, and the aftermath including how the encounter ended, what happened to the bodies of who or whatever was slain.
I hope you take no offense, Mr. Belmont, but I don't want to be anything like how you seem to be, judging you based solely on this internet message board. Kind of how you're judging everyone else. I have real world experiance and knowledge dealing with human disastors and military tactics. I have had to stand in front of a crowd of 300+ angry people who are screaming and shouting and could potentially be armed with guns and explosives in addition to the clubs and rocks they were known to be weilding. I did this with an empty C7, and knew that the Riot Guard in front of us could not use any lethal or dispersement weapons since it was a 'Peaceful' protest.
Once again, Mr. Belmont, no offense but playing pretend in a graveyard is a lot different from the real world. I think you have the wannabe's mistaken...
This will be my only helpful suggestion I give this group of idiots, retards, and dee dee dee.
I have seen not one rational suggestion, let alone one that would be considered helpful. I have seen a jumbled, passionate and largely condescending rant that makes little to no sense. What triggered this explosion? I won't call you the mean names that you've called others on this board. I will however, lump you in your own category of 'dee dee dee'.
after this remove me from this group as none of you deserve to be informed by a professional
Message Eliot and I'm sure he'll be happy to remove you. Until then you will remain on my friends list because I do not descriminate against Humans, no matter how irrational or down right childish they are. We will have enough enemies come Z-Day.
I would like to hear what you consider 'professional', because if it's your 'experiance' in paranormal and paramilitary matters I hate to tell you but real professionals know that PARAoccupation means CLOWNoccupation. In addition, I've never seen a Professional rant with such immaturety.
In closing, God Bless you Mr. Belmont, and good luck on Z-Day. I hope to see you amongst the living once we sort that mess out.
"It doesn't matter if you're smart, dumb, ugly, pretty... it's all the same once yer dead... and a corpse can't laugh." - silent Hill 2
Eliot - Site Admin agrees;
"Yendor makes an interesting point."
Dude you just got Pwned... Excellent post Yendor 5/5
Ah, well, I refuse to edit my other rant so I'll post a new one.
http://ww2.zombieinitiative.org/node/1360?page=5
I believe this is where most of the anger comes from.
You have to realize, Mr. Belmont, that EVERYONE has a different opinion for subjects. NIE is obviously one of these.
I know it's frustrating when you're trying to argue a point you think in your mind is right. For all any one knows it is right, but the fact remains everyone is sure their opinion is right.
This is a fact of life. Not to sound crass but learn to deal with it.
NIE gave you a very good debate, and once the discussion started to become a giant post of insults it was Zombified to avoid redundant and ultimately useless material.
NIE is a moderator, but he doesn't abuse this power. I know it might not seem like that, especially if he can literally get the last word on a post, but read it over and you'll see that that discussion was over. Period.
I hate to see a member be frustrated and leave, but if merely letters on a screen can invoke such anger and irrationality I hate to imagine how much real life can affect.
Everyone on this board is serious about Z-Day. We also have a bit of fun too.
Just because one's views don't match or please anothers one shouldn't become so upset, upset enough to leave.
Mr. Belmont I hope you reconsider. A debate doesn't need one, or two, or three views. It needs views from the left, views from the right, views from outer space, views outta left field, views from the sewer grates, views that encompass damn near every thought or ideal, because a varied debate is an informative debate.
At least stay and least out counter points to a thread you feel is false. In a mature way of course.
As always, hugs and kisses to you all!
I hope you change your mind Mr. Belmont.
"It doesn't matter if you're smart, dumb, ugly, pretty... it's all the same once yer dead... and a corpse can't laugh." - silent Hill 2
Eliot - Site Admin agrees;
"Yendor makes an interesting point."