The Art of Not Getting Shot


sanchez Posted: Sat, 12/01/2007 - 21:23

I've often thought about turning these threads I create for bashing idiocy into articles for ZPI. Although I don't think they're good enough. Not to mention I hope that the number of people interested in disaster preparedness (survivalism) have a little common sense and a tiny bit of morality. Well; I am sure they won't make it very far without the former since a lack of it renders all training, skills, weapons, equipment, and like useless.

Seems that all the talk about looting and the shanghi of other survivors has resurfaced. I may be using direct quotes from other members, but I'm not going to name any names. Pretty sure I'm going to catch some flak for this. Luckily I think staff will go easy on me since they do not approve of such talk and I enjoy reading hate mail.

Don't loot. It will get you killed. Look up at the top of the page. Zombie Preparedness Initiative. Pay extra close attention to that last word.

Preparedness- the state of being prepared

Unless you are prepared and discussing how other members should prepare or you are seeking advice on how to prepare you may want to go someplace else.

Let me repeat this once more; looting will get you killed. By the time everything has gone to a point of where law and order has broken down you don't want to leave your place of residence. Each time you do your chances of survival drop considerably. Ask any survivalist. Going mobile after 'the point of no return' is a last resort. When it looks like things are about to get rough they leave. Not after. They won't have any worries about preparation since that has already been taken care of.

"But what about the free stuff?" If you are above the age of fourteen you should know by now that nothing in life is free. That might be cutting it close since a few members might have had a really good childhood and/or living comfortably with a guardian.

If Z-Day is a nationwide disaster expect martial law to go into effect. They might start shooting looters and infected individuals on sight. You might not be infected, but I don't think they're going to take the time or effort to find out. Quite a few executive orders come into effect as well. Here are a few nifty ones:

"All electrical power, fuels, and all minerals well be seized by the federal government."
"Presidential control over all US citizens, businesses, and churches in time of 'emergency.'"
"All food resources, farms and farm equipment will be seized by the government."
"All modes of transportation will go into government control."
"All civilians can be used for work under federal supervision."

I heard there is a new one that pretty much covers everything. So anything from your shoes to building materials can be taken. Reading all of this do you really want to be moving around after Z-Day? I'm pretty sure they'll be more interest in carrying out all of the above rather than restoring law and order. You can say "Eventually the military will be overrun and government will collapse." all you want. Eventually doesn't do any good if you're shivering in some refugee camp, sitting in a cell after being arrested (citizens can be arrest and held for a long time without charges), or you're dead.

Now that the government part has been taken care of let's look at another factor. Odds are if you plan on going after a business before 'the point of no return' employees are going to be there. If it's a small business you can count on someone being armed when TSHTF. Sure, they might have been shooting to scare off looters. You can expect them to be shooting to kill on Z-Day.
Houses.

These two quotes are priceles:

"capable of taking out a 60 year old woman running around like a chicken with it's head cut off."

"just a few frazzled citizens"

If this 60 year old woman is in her home odds are she isn't going to be running around 'like a chicken with it's head cut off'. If she's like some of our grandmothers one can expect a fight. Even Aunt Bee armed with a .25 automatic or kitchen knife can get lucky. Hell, my great grandmother carried a pistol (illegally at that) and she wouldn't have any problem killing someone who broke into her house.

Some frazzled citizens are armed. A good number will fight back. This one sitting right here will come to the aid of another and has no problem killing someone who would stoop to home invasion. So throw toss that idea out the window.

The following applies to businesses and houses. Let's take a look at this quote from another survivalist:

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For those of you who really think you can run around looting others with impunity while law enforcement is unable to respond you're idiots, and in my AO very soon dead,

I guess people in their part of the country don't play.

Now onto to the issue of recruiting other survivors against their will. This "Shot the shit out of them" and "Kill them soon as they said no, you have to assume they are as good as dead." really pisses me off. If that's your plan and you're in my area expect something from the quote above.

On to the "If they were planning on raiding my base" and "Send out a (scout, recon team, etc.)" crap. Why is it crap? They shouldn't know where your home or safehouse (Base makes you sound like an idiot to me) is in the first place. Sending someone out to spy on them could result in capture or alert. Former means they now know your location and carry out a raid if they want to. Latter means they now know someone is watching them and if armed may have violent intentions in mind. Then you can throw communication out the window since they won't have any problem killing you if they feel threaten.

Very, very, wise quote from our beloved Admin:

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Killing people just because they don't want to listen to you is ridiculous! Unless people are DIRECTLY THREATENING YOUR SAFETY you shouldn't even consider killing them.

I think a lot of people are a bit skeptical about keeping all their supplies in one place. So that strikes down the looting plan if you agree. You won't have time to run around caching stuff and if you did have time there will trouble.

For those of you who claim price is an issue when it comes to food yet I'm pretty sure what money you use to stock food it put on MREs and canned goods. A box of MREs cost $70.00+. That's the kind currently available (due to defense contracts), not stolen from a storage facility, and won't kill or make you sick after eating. A year supply of corn, beans, rice, wheat, etc. is half that price (Maybe less. If the prices are off forgive me).

You don't have to buy it all at once. You can set aside $10.00 a week for your supply and if need be what you need and/or what you need to know to prepare it. If I see any clues that Z-Day is around the corner you can bet I'm going to say "Forget the FAL fund!" and heading into town. If you're going to a feed and grain store just specify that it's for human consumption. Look up your state's laws. Heard there is some kind of tax in some places.

If you buy what I listed above and Z-Day doesn't hit at least you've still got a year(s) supply of food that won't go bad in 10-30 years if stored properly. Wouldn't worry that much about certain pests. More protein.

Should you be lazy and/or feel like spending a little more so you don't have to worry that much about storage here is a site you'll thank me for.

For those of you still harping on MREs:

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A few buckets of wheat deliver far more calories for the same price than a case of MREs

For more information on food storage.

So there you have it, the basics of why you should not loot or try to draft survivors. This should be fun, but it's also important if you want to live and not die. On Z-Day, do you want to get shot?

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nick47 Posted: Sat, 12/01/2007 - 21:32
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YAY……..(Mental image of me patting you on the back) Smiling

Have a nice day!

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Chilbert Posted: Sat, 12/01/2007 - 21:36
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Very good post. Good job Sanchez. It has made me rethink some of my own tactics and preparedness. Thank You.

"They drew first blood not me..." (Stallone in Rambo: First Blood)

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the_zombie_furnace Posted: Sat, 12/01/2007 - 22:08
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Beautiful Sanchez, nicely done.

You lose.

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sanchez Posted: Sun, 12/02/2007 - 00:29

Meh. Random burst of usefulness. Blue Bayou calls me.

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NIE Posted: Sun, 12/02/2007 - 07:23
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nick47 wrote:
YAY……..(Mental image of me patting you on the back) :)

Think hes happy because you didn't use any of his quotes. ;p

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nick47 Posted: Sun, 12/02/2007 - 10:34
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Ive allways said that killing people after z-day would be dumb.

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NIE Posted: Sun, 12/02/2007 - 21:33
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nick47 wrote:
Ive allways said that killing people after z-day would be dumb.

I just think it's smart to take all island loving hippies out of the equation. ;p

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...FIRE = GOOD...

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grimreaper013 Posted: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 09:56
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Nice Sanchez, i really like this. Puts some common sense into some of these people. I give you my gratitude.

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Glutted Posted: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 19:13
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Thank you for this. It was very well thought out, and it will change the way I write my gear list article.

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sanchez Posted: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 20:15

NIE wrote:
I just think it's smart to take all island loving hippies out of the equation.

In pretty much every kind of disaster peace loving veggie eating turnip growing hippies are going to die.

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