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As it has been brought up elsewhere, I will bring the topic here.
How do we store food long-term?
Using Salt, Smoke, Heat and Dryness in some combination is effective to do a dry-store.
- Making thin slices of meat and hanging them in a dry, warm (NOT HOT) smoke until they are dry
- To avoid smoke, you can create a solar oven in a well ventilated area and sun-dry meats and produce
- Layering meats and salt and letting them sit (the time varies, I can include it if there is interest) will cure it will -- meat still needs to be kept in a cool, dry place, like a root cellar
- Similarly, by slicing vegetables thin, and letting them be in warm (NOT HOT), dry air will dry them and they can be stored for some time
The key to canning: sterilize the container, heat the stuff, use brine/syrup, and seal AIR-TIGHT.
- Using sugar syrup for sweet things will keep fruits cured
- Using vinegar and salt for vegetables will keep bacterial/fungal/vegetable growth/activity neutralized
- Make sure that the temperature is high enough (again, if you want the info, I can post it) to kill any existing growth or parasites
- Meat can be canned very effectively, but be VERY careful to observe for signs of botchilism
- Make sure you can tell absolutely whether or not the container is still properly sealed -- use a lid that has an indicator
- Make sure the container can seal AIR TIGHT
- Sterilize the containers ABOLUSTELY -- the most effective way is to use heat, get the water as hot as possible
- Especially with meat and veggies, watch the container to look for any signs of spoilage
Anything else that people are curious about or that people know of that is useful to cure foods?
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underline spoilage in the canned foods...
my grandparents did a lot of canning, they sterilised with a large pot of boiling water. why?
there are anaerobic bacteria. once oxygen runs out (from other bacteria possibly, or that mold on pickle brine thats harmless) they thrive... and are quite dangerous. according to wiki, once some botulism bacilli spores wake up and make some pure botox (yes the beauty product is deadly), the food will become quite lethal. lethal dose being .0000000003 grams of botulin toxin. death comes from paralysis of the diaphragm and other vital muscles in no more than 18 hours. BUT...
if something is canned and spoiled, follow this rule: brine and vinegar packed is garbage. jsut chuck it at the zombies. sugar packed fruit however, add more sugar and re-heat it, once you remove the mold and rot of course. once mixed with molten sugar again, u can can all over again
war's my game
destruction by no other name
If you can find some. MRE's would be great, and they don't taste extremely bad either.
Some people wrestle with their personal demons.
I stabbed mine in the back of the head.
...He was a bleeder.
pickleing items work well too and you can dehdrate things and they will last almost forever
Will you hold me back? If need be I will leave you behind...
And for those with a sweet tooth - honey has a near indefinite shelf life...
The battle rages but they fight in vain
When all is done it must begin again
-"Freya", the Sword
(Eyeroll) Comes from a person who knows what they're talking about:
"MREs do indeed go bad. Furthermore what nutritional value they have is quickly destroyed with high heat and they ARE NOT designed to sustain life for a long time. MREs are a stop gap measure to supply troops in the field with a hunger quenching moral boosting meal, that's all. Many folks make the mistake of thinking that a bunch of MREs will sustain you indefinitely, they are wrong. MREs are only a stop-gap measure for your food supply."
i assume you are responding to the article I wrote as well. I know MREs can spoil, but the info I've found gives a very long shelf life. And they aren't that nutritious, but compared with twinkies, they are gourmet.
All that needs to be said is this: FIRE = BAD
(Revived)
"They drew first blood not me..." (Stallone in Rambo: First Blood)
(Eyeroll) Comes from a person who knows what they're talking about:
"MREs do indeed go bad. Furthermore what nutritional value they have is quickly destroyed with high heat and they ARE NOT designed to sustain life for a long time. MREs are a stop gap measure to supply troops in the field with a hunger quenching moral boosting meal, that's all. Many folks make the mistake of thinking that a bunch of MREs will sustain you indefinitely, they are wrong. MREs are only a stop-gap measure for your food supply."
True but sometimes a stop-gap will be all a person could need. The usage and shelf life is high and though true not an end all answer what is?
"I am the warrior in whom the old ways have combined with the new."